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NEED SOME ADVICE PLEASE
#11
DUCKWORTH71/76 Wrote:THANK YOU for the advice Bronco brothers....

Chuck....Do you have a trottle set-up on you're shifter? If not, what do you think....

Nick...Any issues with C4-Stak 3 speed compatibility/ease of install that you know of? I spoke with Jim Creel with Wild Horses about the C4/Atlas 3 speed and apparently it is a major pain in the ask to install.
Good point on the clutch/over torque factor....

Bucketobolts....Good to hear from you as well my friend....I miss you guys......THANK YOU for the thoughts/pic.....

Hank

Here's my understanding about the main differences of the 2 cases.

Both will require cross members and mounts to be made, along with custom driveshafts, etc. so the work/expense for this is about equal.

Atlas requires an adapter to match up with the C4 which is around another $500
Stak will bolt directly to the C4

The Atals are oval shaped and wont fit between the frame rails without clocking them down so that they will hang down on one side. (I believe they end up hanging lower than a stock D-20)
The standard Stak is oval as well, but they have what they call the "B" model that is triangular in shape and made to fit fit between Bronco Frame rails and I believe that in this configuration they don't hang down as much.

There was a write-up in BroncoDriver about installing the Stak case a few issues ago but I don't remember which one.

I'm sure there are more differences, but I would give a call to West Coast Broncos they sell both the Atlas and Stak boxes and should be able to give you more information about them.

Nick
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#12
I did want to mention that I have no real hard evidence that an automatic will help save other driveline parts, it's just merely an observation when looking at Broncos with similar setups as far a axles, gears and tire sizes with the only major differences being an automatic vs. manual, and comparing the amounts of carnage when wheeling.
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#13
Chuck....I bet the shifter throttle takes a bit of getting used to....

Nick....I really appreciate you sharing you're knowledge on the Atlas/Stak.....I will call WC Bronco's and will look up the Bronco Driver artical....I'm with you on the manual/auto damage occurance thing......

Broncomatt...THANK YOU for you're thoughts.....
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#14
im running the performance automatic street/strip race kit in my bronco's original c4 case with a bone stock dana 20 . one day the dana 20 will have to go. but i love the c4 .
East Coast Surplus & Tactical
336-674-3868
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#15
THANK YOU Broncomania for the feedback on the PA C4....I'm going to go with it along with the Stak 3 speed "B" box....1:1, 2:43 & 4:33

I really appreciate you guys helping me make up my mind......:xyxthumbs:

Hank
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#16
DUCKWORTH71/76 Wrote:THANK YOU Broncomania for the feedback on the PA C4....I'm going to go with it along with the Stak 3 speed "B" box....1:1, 2:43 & 4:33

I really appreciate you guys helping me make up my mind......:xyxthumbs:

Hank

anytime. i bought my pa rebuild kit from holcomb motorsports. they had it in stock and usually only takes a day to get cause they are in nc.
1-800-475-race . i also bought the pa deep pan from them. the trans is awesome. :beer:
East Coast Surplus & Tactical
336-674-3868
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#17
Hank if you were a bit closer I'd offer to build the C4 for you. Probably not worth the drive.
'72 TBA...
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#18
bucketobolts Wrote:Hank if you were a bit closer I'd offer to build the C4 for you. Probably not worth the drive.


I know JayT is getting my C4 today...he lives in Raleigh somewhere...yall should talk.
Waiting to build or BUY another legend! :thefinger:
Always an EB fan, lover and freak :notworthy:

1985 Yoda 4Runner :xyxthumbs:
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#19
DUCKWORTH71/76 Wrote:the PA C4....I'm going to go with it along with the Stak 3 speed "B" box....1:1, 2:43 & 4:33

Hank


http://www.stak4x4.com/3speed_bbox.htm
East Coast Surplus & Tactical
336-674-3868
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#20
Bronco Brothers......I recently found a website, (Colorado Broncos), discussing/debating automatic vs maunal tranny's......check it out......pretty good stuff some tech/some humor.......

http://www.old.cobronco.org

Go to Technical then to Misc. (Left hand menu column at bottom) then to member write ups....enjoy......

Hank
(904) 237-7714
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